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Star Reloaders Discussion Forums => Star Reloaders => Topic started by: osoosi on February 11, 2007, 07:21:32 pm
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I'm interested in the different options available for auto ejection of .45ACP rounds after taper crimping. Posting pictures would be great.
--Craig
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I'll second that. I know they can be made with some spring steel.
But a Pic would go a long way to explain how to bend it.
Thanks,
Paul in WNY
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I too am exploring auto ejection. I have a taper crimp at the last station. I am told I need to elongate the notch in the collar and put a wire cam such that when the dial rotates the wire cams the round out through the wider notch. I really don't want to modify the collar and I am thinking some kind of 'kicker' that would be cocked on the down stroke and then be triggered on the up stroke just before indexing occurs.
Regards, Ray in FLA
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MA Systems made a very effective ejector. The one I have has been working without a failure for about 100,000 rounds. How ever I don't think they make them any more.
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I just picked up two of the MA Systems case ejectors with some other parts. I just need to figure out how to use them now. A friend of mine had one of the spring steel ejectors on his Star machine and if I remember correctly he told me that when you use the spring steel ejector you need to do some machining on the bottom base to enlarge the opening at the taper crimp die position. I stayed away from that one as I didn't want to alter my press.
Diesel
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There's no need for machining. The opening can be elongated w/ a file. Spring steel or strong wire can be used as a guide and also a cam to eject the finished rounds.
The change is quite minor and both eases & speeds operation.
Ron H
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I guess you did not receive the rest of the parts that came with the MA system ejector. If you did there would be no reason to alter anything on the machine.
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(http://www.ray-vin.com/img/ejector.jpg)
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HI, Regarding Tony's post to me on November 18th. No, I have all of the parts to the MA Systems ejector. Just no time as of yet to play with them.
Thanks,
Diesel
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I contacted MA Systems last week and they had all the parts I needed to recondition an Easy Loader. They also have spare parts for the other attachments that they made for the Star. All of their products are peerless.
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How do you contact them?
Diesel
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Diesel their number is 918-824-3705. They are located in Pryor OK. and are very nice people.
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Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call.
Diesel
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I made one for my star out of a short peice of TIG welding wire. using a vice, hammmer, and grinder to put a taper on the point of the wire was all the tools I used. I bent it to fit tightly over the case feed and extend to just the right point to eject the taper crimped round as you index the base plate. Cost: $0; works perfect; not especially pretty; no modifications to the Star. Not for nothing but I bought this machine from Gil Herbard in 1968 for $235 including one extra head for .38.
FG
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Here is a photo of a homemade part for auto ejection. It was made for me by a friend many years ago and is basically a length of bent wire that inserts into the Safety Cam Spring hole in the press base. I don't know that I've ever used it and it may be the part I described earlier in this post that requires opening up of the cartridge ejection port in the press base. I didn't want to alter my press. Also shown in the photo is a part that I am told is manufactured by MA Systems that holds the cartridge case firmly in the press base during the Taper Crimp Operation.
Merry Christmas to all,
Diesel
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Diesel,
The port prob would have to be opened for it to work. A neat job. I had to add guide to keep the rd aligned in tc station.
Apologize for the late comment
Ron
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I have a design that works pretty well. I am not completely happy with it yet so non are for sale.
http://www.bullybarrel.ray-vin.com/frejector.htm
Regards, Ray in FLA
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Nice concept Ray. Only problem I see is that some taper crimp dies must be adjusted all the way down to the shell plate to get proper crimp. I have the same problem with the Star Safety Cam/ejector that I have. It works fine for Star 45 ACP Taper Crimp dies but interfears with some of the other taper crimp dies that I have.
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That ejector is sure different than the safety thing that came with my Star! Is it a Star item?
As far as taper crimp dies coming all the way down, I don't doubt that some do this, but is it necessary? Couldn't the die be shortened at the bottom where it isn't doing anything to the case?
Regards, Ray
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Yes, the Safety Cam pictured is an original Star part. That particular one was marked 38, but I was able to modify it by making the hook portion a little shorter so a 45 case could clear it. It works very well.
Yes, technically you could shorten the die, but that would mean cutting off the knurled portion, and also part of the die that is beveled on the inside that helps to guide the case into the die. I'd prefer to find a solution that didn't require such drastic measures.
Actually, another member made me a case ejecter that works on the same principle as the Star ejector, but without the safety cam. In both cases, the case coming out of the case feeder actuates a spring wire which becomes loaded while a loaded round is in the taper crimp die, and flings the loaded cartridge out as the taper crimp die clears the case. If you look closely at my picture, you can see the spring wire.
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Ray,
Where are located in FL?
I'm in Hudson.
Ron
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Ron,
Marianna, in the panhandle. Only 2 miles from exit 142 on I-10, but about 300 miles away from y'all.
-Ray
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Re: MA Systems made a very effective ejector. The one I have has been working without a failure for about 100,000 rounds. How ever I don't think they make them any more.
Does anybody have any pictures of an MA systems ejector or know of where to get one of these? I don't have any form of auto ejection now. I'm looking for different possiblities! Thanks, Pete