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Star Reloaders / Re: Hole in the center of the 68U plug... why is it there?
« Last post by daviscustom on March 18, 2021, 02:35:23 pm »
Itís another air hole for the gremlins that live in there. :D

I went ahead and made mine with the hole.... I didnít see any reason it would hurt anything to be there.


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Star Reloaders / Re: Hole in the center of the 68U plug... why is it there?
« Last post by NYKenn on March 18, 2021, 09:40:09 am »
I have them both with and without a hole.

Place for debris to go sounds plausible.
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Star Reloaders / Re: Hole in the center of the 68U plug... why is it there?
« Last post by daviscustom on March 18, 2021, 09:19:11 am »
That possibility crossed my mind. Iím not really sure how you could set off a cartridge at the taper crimp die but I guess anything is possible. I wondered if it was a place for powder to go if a primer didnít get installed in the cartridge.
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Star Reloaders / Re: Hole in the center of the 68U plug... why is it there?
« Last post by varmintpopper on March 17, 2021, 11:57:02 pm »
I always thought the hole was a gas escape hole in case a cartridge got set off at that station.

Good Shooting

Lindy
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Star Reloaders / Hole in the center of the 68U plug... why is it there?
« Last post by daviscustom on March 17, 2021, 11:42:41 pm »
Just looking at the 68U plug, and wondering what the purpose is for the hole in the middle?  Just curious what the general consensus is....just there to be able to hook it and pull it out with a piece of wire maybe?
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Star Reloaders / Re: In process of converting to 45acp
« Last post by daviscustom on March 17, 2021, 05:15:27 pm »
A factory loaded 45 ACP cartridge will not push into the sizing die by hand so that seems like a good sign.
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Star Reloaders / Re: In process of converting to 45acp
« Last post by daviscustom on March 17, 2021, 04:07:27 pm »
Just to clarify the fired case would not go in the sizing die, I was sliding it into the bullet seating and the taper crimp die. I guess I can bring the dies to work and check the inside diameterĎs to get a better idea what Iíve got.

Unfortunately I donít have a shell plate for 45 ACP so I canít test it out very easily, but I can get a unfired cartridge and see what it does in those dies.

It would be interesting to see how a factory made shell plate for 45 LC is madeÖ This one appears to be made with the intent of holding the cartridge by the outside case wall just above the rim.Ö Rather than going into an extractor groove.
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Star Reloaders / Re: In process of converting to 45acp
« Last post by bwpsc on March 17, 2021, 03:26:11 pm »
From what I could gather off of the net, the extractor groove for a .45Lc is .450". The extractor groove for a .45acp is only .394".
So it is looking more like to be a .45Lc shell plate.
The die has those funny 2 lines cut into it with what I think is a die grinder or cut off wheel not a cold chisel. Somebody put them there to identify something.
I think you will need to use a resized case or a new cartridge to see how they fit into the sizing die. The fired case will expand a few or several thousands of an inch and throw off your findings.
Let us know what you find.
Later,
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So if the outside diameter of the shell plate was a little smaller than normal that shouldnít  keep it from working then right?Ö Since that should still give me clearance to keep the plate from interfering with the tabs holding the case in place? Is that outside diameter what you would normally expect to see for a 45acp plate?

By the way, I measured the plate at work with my micrometer and it is .2174Ē thick

The diameter you mention above would be close to the spec for a 45 ACP shell plate.  Sorry, specs are proprietary.

Yes, you can use a shell plate that is smaller than spec, but it makes adjusting the shell locator straps a little harder.   The best way to adjust the shell locator straps is to turn the shell plate so the straps are NOT opposite a shell opening then adjust the strap so it just clears the shell plate.  Of course this assumes the shell plate diameter meets spec.

Bruce Williams
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I wonder if it was a 45 ACP shell plate that was modified to fit 45 Colt.   I have seen such things.  I won't name any names.

Bruce Williams

So I guess the big question, is this shell plate worth keeping to trade for what I need or do you think that outside diameter being too small is going to create enough problems that you wouldnít recommend it?  If you donít think itís going to be a viable option for someone to use to reload 45 Long colt then itís probably not gonna be of much value for me to try to use it for trade and I might as well send it back for a refund. Is there any more information that you need to be able to form a recommendation?
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