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Loading Data & Reloading Procedures / Preferred Bushing/Powder Bar Shape
« on: January 31, 2009, 05:42:44 pm »
I am interested in hearing if members have found a tall-thin column of pdr or a short-wide column shaped bushing gives the best results in various powders? Do course grains prefer either? It would seem when using fine grain powders shape wouldn't be too important.

The difference in height possible in a star would be the thick bars using commericaly available bushings, or at the other end, an "O" bar with a larger diameter.

Thanks,
Ron

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Star History / Re: Star Dunn & Bradstreet Report
« on: January 31, 2009, 05:27:40 pm »
Any  kind of a rough estimate of the total production over the life of the company? How many years were they in production?

LIke you, the irrigation/loader ratio is a real surprise. One of our local shooters visited the facility, maybe roughly 1980, and said the irrigation business was where their emphasis was & that loaders were an aside. I wonder if that was an assumption based on floor space used by the two?

He also said they were very safety oriented in regards to the loader and any chg that might be made.

Ron

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Survey Says... / Re: Values and prices
« on: January 31, 2009, 11:28:26 am »
The 38 Prog for $847 compared to the 9mm Un for $409 is indeed surprising. I paid $200 for a Prog on ebay which was just as 333OKH describes. I would take it anytime over an $847 machine for what I do.

As in live audience auctions every one is different...human nature!!

I find sumary postings interesting.

Ron

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Star History / Re: CPM on Ebay
« on: January 31, 2009, 11:18:47 am »
The several friends I mentioned in my previous have used their machines for many yrs with good results. Kenn you are right as to an economical way to go. From posts & conversations it's apparent many of us have more than 1 machine, each being used to load a specific caliber. This would certainly fit in well in that respect or for the cals for which dies etc included.

Although hardly necessary, it's sure nice to have the convenience of just "adding primers & powder" and putting out the desired ammo at the stroke of the handle!

The drawbacks have been discussed here and it should be observed these are worthy machines in their own right. As with anything mechanical, condition & the presence of all the required accoutrements to run, are important.

Ron

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Star History / Re: CPM on Ebay
« on: January 29, 2009, 09:05:22 pm »
A friend has a CPM. He & several others worked for CPM part time to help pay for their loaders. He recently told me he has a case feeder for the machine which he doesn't use. When I inquired as to using it on one of my stars he told me it had a diff radius. I'm quite sure they were made [no e-mail]@ CPM. Detloff, the owner was a competent engineer, machinist, & small businessman.

A friend who disposed of the last of his inventory of parts & machines for him had used a CPM since it's inception in a deal as above related. After many yrs he acquired a used star. He never used the CPM after, attesting to the superiority of star.

Detloff started out charging close to the same price as star so apparently later on sold them for less. Though I never used one they had some interesting innovations, mostly improvements we have made to our stars such as the loaded round ejector. The primer pickup tubes accommodated 100 and of course the use of 7/8-14 dies. He used a powder bar drilled for bushings. The shellplate is not interchangeable with the stars.

Detloff promoted his units mostly himself as I understood. He & his wife both competed in bullseye so he pushed them there and probably obtained certain tax advantages from those travels. He sold the business to an individual who seemed to just drop the whole thing. I tried contacting him several times for replacement parts needed by friends to no avail. The closest was when I talked to his sister who advised me to stop wasting my time. Fortunately the parts needed were fairly straight forward and we made them.

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Star Lubricator & Resizers / Re: Brand new Star Sizer?
« on: January 17, 2009, 08:20:44 pm »
Is it adapted to run w/ the cylinder? If so it wil be a great setup. I have a friend who has set up 3 of them. I ran sec thousand 45 ser. What a work saver!! Forget the cylcic rate but a real production setup.wc's.

Good luck w/ it!!
Ron

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Star Lubricator & Resizers / Re: Brand new Star Sizer?
« on: January 17, 2009, 04:56:09 pm »
Did you get a kiss?
Ron

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Star Lubricator & Resizers / Re: Need help! What do I have ?
« on: January 09, 2009, 09:16:05 pm »
You can buy a universal set up for most any caliber then use the parts you have, filling in any gaps, and end up with a versatile, quality machine. Universals in .38 special probably w/be the cheapest but there are many variables, quality demand etc.
Ron

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Survey Says... / Re: Bill Cunningham and Star parts
« on: December 09, 2008, 03:08:14 pm »
Hugh,
Apparently you caught him during one of the moments when he can be reached. Believe me, I, &  others have had the frustration of reaching him then then not reaching him. This has been, and apparently, ever will be. When he can't be reached e-mails will be useless too.

Ron H



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Star Reloaders / Re: Price for Star machines?
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:30:11 am »
Can anyone advise what the eby fee structure is?  I'm curious how much the offerer must pay when  the mchine is sold.

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Star Reloaders / Re: Price for Star machines?
« on: November 19, 2008, 01:16:45 am »
The prices mentioned above are strongly affected by machine condition. On ebay if the picture quality is poor enough to make an evaluation of the machine's condiitions & age price will be affected. Early machines w/ the small hole [no e-mail]@ the taper crimp station are lower in value. A Progressive model, only produced in .38 & not caliber convertible, will generally fall in the low end.

From my experience the prices on ebay are quite often higher than casual sales where there is limited exposure to customers.

Ron H

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Star Reloaders / Re: Star Loader out of Mothballs
« on: October 26, 2008, 12:40:21 am »
I was recently taken to task by a "gentleman" operating a loading business who is very high on dillons. I had related the problem in feeding CCI primers. In his comments he referred to the star as "obsolescent equipment".

The only "advice" he could give was to check the primer feed tubes for being out of round or damaged. Apparently the part where I related other brands didn't give the same problem didn't penetrate the fog!!

I have 2 of these "obsolescent" machines & wish I could afford a 3rd!!
Ron

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Which gun do you practice most .38 or .45? I have found I must practice w/ the .38 as there is a dif in the two. As mentioned above, follow thru is very critical w/ the .38.

I have an old shooting friend who had an analogy similiar to the "girl friend", his was "the .38 is like a lady of ill repute, you know you shouldn't but you can't resist going there".

Seriously, I too find the .38 very pleasant to shoot.
Ron

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The 38 colts are  pleasant to shoot. I think they tend to hurt 45 scores though. I didn't own one until I was 65 & then the theory was my scores had deteriorated so badly it couldn't hurt. It did. Possibly practicing w/ the 45 then shooting the 38 in matches? I've had some very nice pratice 38 scores but am inconsistent and have always scored lower than with the 45.

What are some of you posters exp in this regard? Also what bullets have given the best results? I use Delta Precision HBWC (swaged). I noted rbwillng's success w/ Rem.

My 38 (the one I shoot) is a slide mounted red dot and has no markings as to the pistolsmith. I use 2.75 grains of BE. I haven't had the opportunity to have it shot in the ransom rest.

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I have to take issue with the advice to chg the sights...it should only be moved 1 click.
Ron

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