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Star Reloaders / Re: Progressive in 32 S&W
« on: October 07, 2012, 10:51:34 pm »
On a Universal there is no problem at all. The shell locator straps do the bumping for you.
Joatmon, I measured nine 38 Special Shell plates. The meaurements ranged from 3.615 to 3.621, but the median and the mean was 3.618. I have one additional 38 shell plate with a "U" stamped on the bottom (Universal?). It measured 3.623
Joatmon, I measured nine 38 Special Shell plates. The meaurements ranged from 3.615 to 3.621, but the median and the mean was 3.618. I have one additional 38 shell plate with a "U" stamped on the bottom (Universal?). It measured 3.623
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Star Reloaders / Re: Progressive in 32 S&W
« on: October 07, 2012, 07:12:09 pm »
The answer is yes, sort of.
I currently have two 32 S&W shell plates in my possession. The diameter of the shell plates are 3.577" and 3.576.
I checked the dimensions of the recess of the progressive's steel base where the shell plate is mounted and got 3.625 +/- .001" on the three progressives I have sitting here. So there is room for the shell plate.
I checked the diameters of a whole bunch of 38 Special Shell plates and they measured 3.618" +/- .003"
I mounted my 32 S&WL tool head (after changing the angle lever cam) on a progressive with the 32 S&W shell plate and cycled a few cases thru the press. The only real problem was at the sizing station. Since the 32 S&W shell plate is smaller than the 38 Special shell plate, and the case is smaller as well, there is a fair amount of slop between the case and edge of the steel base. If you push the case all the way into the shell plate, no problem. If the case is sitting out against the edge of the steel base, you are likely to catch the edge of the case and crush it. A was using a Lifetyme sizing die.
At the primer station, the movement of the primer slide carries the case into the proper position, plus the expander has a pretty good bevel on the end, so that also helps assure the case is in the right position for the primer.
Likewise the mouth of the seating die has a pretty good bevel, or lead in which tends to move the case over to the proper position, so I didn't encounter any problems there with the limited number of cases I cycled.
So while I don't think it's optimum I think you can load 32 S&W on a Progressive. You just have to push the case into the shell plate at the sizing station.
It has been said that Star made Progressives in 32 S&W. I assume Star machined the "rim" of the steel base to the proper size to properly position the cases on those machines.
Bruce
I currently have two 32 S&W shell plates in my possession. The diameter of the shell plates are 3.577" and 3.576.
I checked the dimensions of the recess of the progressive's steel base where the shell plate is mounted and got 3.625 +/- .001" on the three progressives I have sitting here. So there is room for the shell plate.
I checked the diameters of a whole bunch of 38 Special Shell plates and they measured 3.618" +/- .003"
I mounted my 32 S&WL tool head (after changing the angle lever cam) on a progressive with the 32 S&W shell plate and cycled a few cases thru the press. The only real problem was at the sizing station. Since the 32 S&W shell plate is smaller than the 38 Special shell plate, and the case is smaller as well, there is a fair amount of slop between the case and edge of the steel base. If you push the case all the way into the shell plate, no problem. If the case is sitting out against the edge of the steel base, you are likely to catch the edge of the case and crush it. A was using a Lifetyme sizing die.
At the primer station, the movement of the primer slide carries the case into the proper position, plus the expander has a pretty good bevel on the end, so that also helps assure the case is in the right position for the primer.
Likewise the mouth of the seating die has a pretty good bevel, or lead in which tends to move the case over to the proper position, so I didn't encounter any problems there with the limited number of cases I cycled.
So while I don't think it's optimum I think you can load 32 S&W on a Progressive. You just have to push the case into the shell plate at the sizing station.
It has been said that Star made Progressives in 32 S&W. I assume Star machined the "rim" of the steel base to the proper size to properly position the cases on those machines.
Bruce
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: WTB Star Lube-Sizer
« on: October 06, 2012, 10:11:36 am »
PM Sent
I am looking for a Star Lube-sizer, preferrably set up for any of the following 9mm, 357, 45ACP, 45Colt
Thanks
GMT210
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Star History / Re: Wemco Williams Star Reloader
« on: October 04, 2012, 01:44:08 am »
I just have a search for Star in the Reloader area. It's the only one I have seen come up in many years.
Should have bought it.
Should have bought it.
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Star Reloaders / Re: Progressive in 32 S&W
« on: October 03, 2012, 08:07:39 pm »
Joatman,
I would be happy to trade you a 32 S& W long set for that Star Rifle machine.
I would be happy to trade you a 32 S& W long set for that Star Rifle machine.
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Star Reloaders / Re: Progressive in 32 S&W
« on: October 03, 2012, 02:37:29 pm »
I have a 32 s&w set sitting here as we'll as a Progressive, so I will give it a try. Give me a couple days.
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: Star for sale
« on: October 01, 2012, 10:57:25 pm »
Bob, I sent you another email. Message received.
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: Star for sale
« on: October 01, 2012, 02:15:39 pm »
Rojkoh, PM sent.
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: WTB - Powder Drains
« on: September 30, 2012, 04:31:44 pm »
Maurilew makes a nice one. Very resonably priced
http://www.starreloaders.com/forum/index.php?topic=1525.msg6251#msg6251
http://www.starreloaders.com/forum/index.php?topic=1525.msg6251#msg6251
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: Indexor on Ebay
« on: September 26, 2012, 10:01:34 pm »
Actually the Rube Goldberg device,....with the pulley and wire, is the only one I know of that will work with a Phelps Reloader. These have a clock work spring under the pulley that is often broken.
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Star History / Re: Star Price History
« on: September 26, 2012, 09:28:08 am »
Thanks G. Deming
I have updated my previous list
For a Universal Reloader, I can share the following price history;
December 1, 1945........$ 120.00 (no mention of carbide sizing dies)
January 1, 1952 ......................Parts price list only, Includes price for carbide sizing dies
May 1, 1952 ...............$ 130.00 (no mention of carbide sizing dies)
July 1, 1953................$ 150.00 (no mention of carbide sizing dies)
August 1, 1954 ...........$ Parts price list only. Includes price for carbide sizing dies.
January 1, 1956 ......... $ 170.00
December 1, 1958........$ 190.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
January 1, 1961.......... $ 190.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
January 20, 1965.........$ 225.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
April 1, 1966...............$ 248.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
March 1, 1968.............$ 248.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
Dec 1, 1968................$ 262.50 (with carbide sizing die option. data from Jet22)
July 15, 1970...............$ 287.50 (with carbide sizing die option)**
November 1, 1973........$ 450.00 (Carbide Dies are Standard)
November 1, 1975.........$ 450.00 (Carbide Dies are Standard
February 1, 1977..........$ 525.00 (from Kenneth L. Walters)
March 1, 1978..............$ 660.00
March 1, 1979..............$ 760.00
March 1, 1980..............$ 925.00 (from Kenneth L. Walters
April 1, 1981................$1110.00 (pricing for "Progressive" Reloader no longer given)
January 10, 1983.........$ 925.00 (Says New Lower Prices)
April 1, 1988.................$ 925.00 (Says New Lower Prices!)
May 1, 1990.................$ 925.00
September 1, 1991........$ 925.00
July 8, 1996 .................$925.00 (from Welsh Rifleman)
May 1, 1997.................$ 925.00 (looks like an original Star price list, but maybe from Bill Cunningham?)
* July 1953 brochure/price list includes a note that "During the present emergency and labor shortage we will only attempt to carry in stock those parts necessary to load the 45 ACP and 38 Special" Also says the Universal will adapt to the popular hand gun calibers "except 45 Auto Rim"
** July 15, 1970 Brochure with stamp on the front cover indicating that lead time for a Reloader is 5-6 months and for a Lubesizer 1-2 months.
I have updated my previous list
For a Universal Reloader, I can share the following price history;
December 1, 1945........$ 120.00 (no mention of carbide sizing dies)
January 1, 1952 ......................Parts price list only, Includes price for carbide sizing dies
May 1, 1952 ...............$ 130.00 (no mention of carbide sizing dies)
July 1, 1953................$ 150.00 (no mention of carbide sizing dies)
August 1, 1954 ...........$ Parts price list only. Includes price for carbide sizing dies.
January 1, 1956 ......... $ 170.00
December 1, 1958........$ 190.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
January 1, 1961.......... $ 190.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
January 20, 1965.........$ 225.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
April 1, 1966...............$ 248.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
March 1, 1968.............$ 248.00 (with carbide sizing die option)
Dec 1, 1968................$ 262.50 (with carbide sizing die option. data from Jet22)
July 15, 1970...............$ 287.50 (with carbide sizing die option)**
November 1, 1973........$ 450.00 (Carbide Dies are Standard)
November 1, 1975.........$ 450.00 (Carbide Dies are Standard
February 1, 1977..........$ 525.00 (from Kenneth L. Walters)
March 1, 1978..............$ 660.00
March 1, 1979..............$ 760.00
March 1, 1980..............$ 925.00 (from Kenneth L. Walters
April 1, 1981................$1110.00 (pricing for "Progressive" Reloader no longer given)
January 10, 1983.........$ 925.00 (Says New Lower Prices)
April 1, 1988.................$ 925.00 (Says New Lower Prices!)
May 1, 1990.................$ 925.00
September 1, 1991........$ 925.00
July 8, 1996 .................$925.00 (from Welsh Rifleman)
May 1, 1997.................$ 925.00 (looks like an original Star price list, but maybe from Bill Cunningham?)
* July 1953 brochure/price list includes a note that "During the present emergency and labor shortage we will only attempt to carry in stock those parts necessary to load the 45 ACP and 38 Special" Also says the Universal will adapt to the popular hand gun calibers "except 45 Auto Rim"
** July 15, 1970 Brochure with stamp on the front cover indicating that lead time for a Reloader is 5-6 months and for a Lubesizer 1-2 months.
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: WTB Toolhead without dies
« on: September 25, 2012, 10:27:30 pm »
I have several tool heads available. Email Sent
Bruce
Bruce
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: wtb star toolhead
« on: September 25, 2012, 10:26:30 pm »
I have several. Email Sent
Bruce
Bruce
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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: wtb 9 mm shell plate
« on: September 04, 2012, 02:27:10 am »
I just got one in. SOLD
Bruce
Bruce