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Messages - rbwillnj

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Star Lubricator & Resizers / Re: Extended lube magazine
« on: Today at 09:21:55 am »
I have five of them that will be available in the near future.   I'm in the process of cleaning them up.

Bruce Williams

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Star Lubricator & Resizers / Re: Extended lube magazine
« on: Yesterday at 04:13:02 pm »
So you mean something like this?   Standard product, but not all that common.   

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Stars Want to Sell/Want to Buy / Re: WANTED, Need 9mm Luger Shell plate
« on: September 19, 2021, 07:42:36 pm »
Gentlemen

We still produce new shell plates and dies at Star Machine Works.   I have sold quite a few 9MM shell plates, Die Sets and 9MM machines this year.   With the ammunition shortage, everyone who said 9MM was too inexpensive to bother reloading suddenly wanted to reload 9MM, so we sold out.  Got it back in stock and sold out again.  We will have it back in stock again at some point and it may very well sell out again.  I have a number of backorders already.

We also produce the rest of the calibers produced by Star and have a number of them in stock, but it's been tough keeping anything in stock this year.

Bruce Williams
Star Machine Works

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Star Reloaders / Re: Half the Mounting Holes Drilled Out to 3/8"
« on: June 25, 2021, 07:55:06 am »
Sometimes people just don't have enough 1/4" bolts in the drawer.   I have seen several where the mounting holes have been enlarged.

Since only the two in the front mounting holes have been enlarged, I would guess it had something to do with mounting an indexer.

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Star Reloaders / Re: Powder bar designations
« on: May 05, 2021, 09:46:46 am »
Original Star powder slides came in four thicknesses.   The 0 powder slide (marked on the edge for the bar) and typically found on "Progressive" models is 1/4" thick.   The 00 powder slide, the most common, and standard on "Universal" models is 5/16" thick.    Star also made powder sides that are 1/2" and 5/8" thick that are typically used for magnum charges.  These powder slides are not marked on the edge.

All of the above powder slides are marked on the top with the powder, and the charge in grains.

Star made corresponding powder slide housings marked No. 0, No. 00, 1/2 and 5/8.    Star also made spacers to convert a No. 00 housing to handle a 1/2" or 5/8" powder slide.

The 299 designation is not a marking that I'm familiar with, but there are powder slides out there with markings for a number of now obsolete powders.

Bruce Williams

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Star Reloaders / Re: DIY case kicker
« on: April 12, 2021, 01:58:50 pm »
It goes through a hole in the "L bracket"    The wire is .015 Hard Brite Spring wire, or at least that's the closest replacement I have found.

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Star Reloaders / Re: DIY case kicker
« on: March 30, 2021, 02:12:35 pm »
Actually, I like your system because it doesn't interfere with a taper crimp die.   You might consider a thin wire like used on the MA Systems Eject-Ease to push the case back in.   It doesn't interfere with the ejection.   Picture attached, let me know if you need a better one.  This is what I had handy.

One note:   Not all Shell Plate Thrust Nuts are the same size.  Yours looks like a late model which is the smallest.  Earlier ones tended to have a bigger diameter.

Bruce Williams

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So if the outside diameter of the shell plate was a little smaller than normal that shouldnít  keep it from working then right?Ö Since that should still give me clearance to keep the plate from interfering with the tabs holding the case in place? Is that outside diameter what you would normally expect to see for a 45acp plate?

By the way, I measured the plate at work with my micrometer and it is .2174Ē thick

The diameter you mention above would be close to the spec for a 45 ACP shell plate.  Sorry, specs are proprietary.

Yes, you can use a shell plate that is smaller than spec, but it makes adjusting the shell locator straps a little harder.   The best way to adjust the shell locator straps is to turn the shell plate so the straps are NOT opposite a shell opening then adjust the strap so it just clears the shell plate.  Of course this assumes the shell plate diameter meets spec.

Bruce Williams

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First off, the shell plate really does look like it was made by Star.   The G is a puzzle, but I have seen some odd markings on Star shell plates.

The slot where the case is inserted looks like it has a beveled edge which would be typical for rimless or semi-rimmed cases that are held in the shell plate by the extractor groove.   Shell plates for rimmed cases like 38 special and 45 Colt are held by the rim and the slot is not beveled (so far as I have seen).  This doesn't prevent it from being used for 45 Colt if the case fits and the recess on the bottom of the shell plate is big enough to accommodate the rim, and is the correct depth.

The diameter of each caliber shell plate is different.  This makes it possible for the shell locator straps to push the case all the way into the shell plate.

I wonder if it was a 45 ACP shell plate that was modified to fit 45 Colt.   I have seen such things.  I won't name any names.

Bruce Williams

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45 Colt Shell Plates made by Star are generally marked LC.   So I'm guessing yours was made by someone else.  A picture would help.

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Star History / Re: Powder Shut-Off
« on: February 15, 2021, 02:33:27 pm »
Kenn,   I think your 1909 birthdate is more plausible than the D&B reported birth date of 1926 which would have meant Elard was 13 when he joined Star.   Not impossible for a relative of CR Peterson in those days, but not likely.  I know he passed away in 1996 and had spent some time in a nursing home prior to that.

Elsewhere it has been reported that Elard worked for Star for 57 years.   That would line up fairly closely with a join date of 1939 depending of course on the length of time he spent in the nursing home.

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Star History / Re: Powder Shut-Off
« on: February 14, 2021, 09:25:44 am »
The picture below is from the May 1934 issue of American Rifleman.  I had never noticed it before, but after seeing the powder shut off in the above pictures, I think this machine, which is even earlier, also has a powder shut off. 

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Star History / Re: Powder Shut-Off
« on: February 13, 2021, 09:48:08 pm »
Should probably put this in the Star History section, but further to the above, I have a Dun & Bradstreet Report from 1979 which states Elard Mock was born in 1926 and went to work with Clarence Peterson at Star in 1939.   He along with Willis (Bill) Brenizer bought the company from Clarence Peterson (50/50 partners) in 1954.

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Star History / Re: Powder Shut-Off
« on: February 12, 2021, 09:18:56 pm »
I suspect you are right Kenn, but we will never know.    We have heard that Elard Mock didn't like powder shut offs, but I think these machines might pre-date Elard at Star.  He was Clarence Peterson's nephew and he would have been pretty young in 1933 when the patent was filed. 

These are very early machines.  The machining is crude compared to even later Pat Pending machines.  Some of the parts like the Rocker Arm and Angle Lever look almost hand made.   The pictured rocker arm is from the machine above and on the other side it is stamped with the same number that was stamped on the base.

Bruce Williams

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Star History / Re: Powder Shut-Off
« on: February 12, 2021, 08:54:30 am »
A couple weeks ago, a customer sent me two bases with columns to have me drill and tap them for mounting case feeders.   I recognized one as a very old base so I asked the customer to send me pictures of the machine when he got it back together.   As it turns out, it was another Pat Pending machine with a bronze powder slide housing and a powder shut off.    I think this confirms that Star experimented with powder shut offs on very early machines then abandoned the idea.

Bruce Williams