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Title: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on June 28, 2012, 02:40:37 pm
Whats the take on MA Systems air bullet feeder ? Got a line on a couple and wondering if to jump or not
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: tony barone on June 28, 2012, 11:09:16 pm
I have been using the MA System Easy loader for a few years now and it is a joy to operate. It is a trouble free system if set up correctly. I would grab it as I have never seen them offered. They were very expensive from MA Systems.
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on June 29, 2012, 05:20:21 am
Tony wonder if I could also set one up on the 1050. Any idea how small on bullets they will feed
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: askimball (Doc) on June 29, 2012, 04:24:48 pm
angus6

They make Bullet Feeders for the Dillon 1050.. ;)

Try this address:

http://www.gsiinternational.com/where-to-get-parts.html
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on June 29, 2012, 08:44:17 pm
Doc 2K is way out of my $$ range , having a had time on these 2 feeders let a lone 2 K

Just kinda trying to talk myself in to one for the dillon and one for a Star,Tony does this look right ?
 
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e219/angus6/BulletFeederMASystems.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: askimball (Doc) on June 29, 2012, 09:14:29 pm
Considering this Co. makes these for the Dillon for $700.......Not a bad price for a NEW
Bullet Feeder..........
Parts are available for different calibers................ :)

As you know M-A no longer makes those Bullet Feeder, so you would have to make the Parts..........
I believe there is more to the system... ???
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on June 29, 2012, 09:38:38 pm
Off topic  ;D
[quote author=askimball (Doc) link=topic=1630.msg6748#msg6748 date=1341018869]
Considering this Co. makes these for the Dillon for $700.......Not a bad price for a NEW
Bullet Feeder..........
Parts are available for different calibers................


As you know M-A no longer makes those Bullet Feeder, so you would have to make the Parts..........
I believe there is more to the system... ???
[/quote]

Mills and  lathes are great for making parts, even better when you can do it on the clock ;)

Tony was that you that made a post about doing a video ?  if so did you ?
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: tony barone on June 29, 2012, 11:57:22 pm
Angus you also need the bullet tube with micro switch, a bullet collator and an air supply. A friend of mine makes the Kiss Bullet Feeder that works for every press except the Star. Go on You Tube and you can see it in operation. It works great with the 1050 and is about $400.00. He gave me a bullet collator that I use on my Star. The Kiss machine is used by all of the IPSC shooters that I know of and it works superbly. Give MA Systems a call they have parts for that Easy Loader. Thats a good find if you got that at a reasonable price as it was $350.00 new when it was available. I have not made a video yet but I will soon.
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: askimball (Doc) on June 30, 2012, 01:13:27 am
Angus6
You brought the subject up '1050'
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on June 30, 2012, 05:42:59 am
Angus6
You brought the subject up '1050 & MA Sytems bullet feeder' ;)


Quote
also need the bullet tube with micro switch, a bullet collator and an air supply.

That stuff is easy enough

As soon as I get rid of another Dillon I'll have bench space to set another Star and mess with this
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: tony barone on July 01, 2012, 01:08:58 pm
Angus here is a set up.
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: tony barone on July 01, 2012, 01:09:37 pm
Angus here is a set up.



(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/bach1958/july1009noflash002.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: Joatmon on July 01, 2012, 01:39:56 pm
Tony, It looks like you did not go with the MA systems case feeder on your setup (looks great by the way).  Any reason why not?  I have a Star in 45 ACP with the MA casefeeder, it seems a bit overly complicated compared to the Hulme design.  Perhaps the Hulme style was still covered by patent?  Anyway, was just wondering about your setup.  Sorry, this is a bit off the first thread. 

John
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on July 01, 2012, 07:53:50 pm
Tony the bullet tube & micro switch is it just a simple tube with a limit swith to control the collator ? I'm not seeing whats triggering your feeder to extend and retract

John hows the RL1000 , missed getting a bid in on one last week  :(
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: tony barone on July 02, 2012, 12:14:21 am
John I received the Hulme from Star with the machine in 1986. The MA case feeder from what I understand is a very good design as it does not obstruct any stations. Angus that is a tube with a micro switch that controls the collator. The Easy Loader is operated by an air control switch that's mounted to the top of the machine. I think the micro switch tube assembly for the bullets is available from MA Systems. I got one from them about a year ago. I have been buying spare parts from them for a while now but like the Star I have never needed any. You can see the air switch at the top of the machine. You can use the control switch to zoom in. The Easy Loader was designed for the Star and the Dillon 1050. The Kiss bullet collator is available from Kiss Mfg.

(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx203/bach1958/StarReloader001.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: angus6 on July 02, 2012, 10:08:08 am
Thanks that pic helped a bunch , looks like the tube is the same as the MA System collator I use on my lube master, wasn't sure if it was a simple one like that or something that let only a few bullets at a time stack in the ready for the feeder because of weight
Bob
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: Joatmon on July 02, 2012, 10:39:48 pm
Tony,  Thanks for the reply.  The casefeeder does seem to work well, it is just a bit different than the Hulme.  There are two smaller guide arms that help align the slide mechanism.  Instead of a plunger there is a nylon block with a U milled into it to give a very positive positioning of the case.  It does work well with the MA case kicker at the final station.  When I got this one the internal spring was not in place, so that was a bit of a trick to get that back into position.  Thanks for posting the nice pics, your neat setup makes mine look like a bit of a trash pile.   

Bob, The 1000 is good, quite pleased with the design and the smoothness of the mechanism.  It seems to have little wear in the linkage or slop in the shell plate platform.  I saw the one you are referring to.  It was missing several critical parts so you may have been better off waiting.  (Powder measure, slides, cam mechanism... )  Good luck with the bullet feeder.  Let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: askimball (Doc) on July 04, 2012, 10:41:43 pm
I'd like to have one of those Bullet Feeders (M-A)

I'd trade a Star Reloader for a set-up of a M-A Bullet Feeder.. ;D
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: LeupoldMRK4 on July 04, 2012, 10:59:22 pm
Joatman
Is that the RL 1000 that was on  ebay with the dillon case trimmer?

I looked at that one too. I also called Dillon to see if it was rebuilt like the guy was saying.  The guy I talked to worked there for 25 yrs( so I thought he knew what he was talking about) said they have not rebuilt any RL 1000's in 2-3 years.
 
Title: Re: anyone use a MA Systems Bullet feeder
Post by: Joatmon on July 08, 2012, 07:39:50 pm
Yes, I belive that was it.  Lots of expensive parts missing and only a chance replacing them (at probable high cost).  Surprising just how much of the Star design was incorporated into that press.  Too expensive to build and support though.  Sorry about the thread drift.