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Title: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: z4lunch on July 20, 2012, 11:11:38 pm
Steve here...   I had Dave (fc60) make up a set of 32 S&W Long Star dies... they  showed up yesterday. They are an absolute work of art!!!
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x33/z4lunch/IMG_1585.jpg)

 
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Stillwater on September 20, 2012, 05:48:41 pm
They appear to be of Excellent workmanship...

Bill
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: tony barone on September 20, 2012, 07:42:54 pm
I have to think of something that I need from Dave. His work is beautiful.
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Green Frog on September 22, 2012, 07:35:10 am
Since the 32 S&W L is smaller than the 38 Spl, I am wondering why it wouldn't be relatively simple to convert a Star Progressive (not Universal) to this caliber.  Is it the shell plate?  Something else?  Inquiring minds...   ???

Froggie
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: z4lunch on September 22, 2012, 11:13:22 pm

I believe I read somewhere here... Star made  the progressive in 32S&W Long. I assume they are rare.
Steve

Since the 32 S&W L is smaller than the 38 Spl, I am wondering why it wouldn't be relatively simple to convert a Star Progressive (not Universal) to this caliber.  Is it the shell plate?  Something else?  Inquiring minds...   ???

Froggie
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: johnfreeman on June 05, 2013, 08:12:43 pm
I just received my set of 9mm dies from Dave.

They are indeed as you say, works of art.

I will own them forever.

Thanks Dave!
John
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Green Frog on July 09, 2013, 12:00:19 pm
Still wonderin' whether my disused 38 Progressive could become an actively used 38 S&W Long or 327 Fed Mag Progressive.  Is anyone willing to take it on (and make me a proposal as to cost, time frame, etc.?)  We've established that some very nice dies are available from fc60.   ???

Froggie
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: fc60 on July 10, 2013, 09:39:22 pm
Greetings,

I have a 38 S&W shell plate. Not the 38 Special; but, 38 S&W. The 38 S&W case diameter is slightly larger than a 38 Special.

With a set of 38 Super/ACP dies, you would be all set.

Only question is whether or not the 38 S&W shell plate will fit into your Progressive machine. I only have Universals, so I cannot test.

Regarding the 327 or similar cases, I would not think a Progressive would be a good choice. The cases would have a tendency to migrate to the outer edge out of the axis of the dies. I foresee several cases getting squashed or having large dents where the die comes down on a case that is not in alignment.

Cheers,

Dave
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Scott L on July 14, 2013, 10:18:43 am
Froggie,
I know Dave will cringe at this suggestion, but (if your progressive machine is in less than collector grade) what about drilling and tapping the base at each station for spring loaded ball detent set screws? I was thinking about doing this on a base that I need to weld up and have Dave skim cut to original condition.
Scott
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: bkbc38 on August 02, 2013, 08:31:20 am
Hello All,

Just wanted to comment on Super Dave Wilson.  Loaded thousand rounds of 9mm Makarov with a set of dies Dave made for us. Excellent Quality workmanship. Loads look better than factory. He has done great work for me.  I put an order in for a set of 44/40 dies and am sure they will be good to go.  Thanks Dave.

Bk
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Buckhunter on September 12, 2013, 12:28:26 pm
 :D I had Dave (fc60) make up a set of 9mm Luger Star dies... they
  arrived a couple days ago. In the past he has made three complete
  sets of dies for me which also included Taper crimp dies, He also has made
  three separate taper crimp dies in different calibers for me. His dies are
  fantastic and anyone thinking about new dies for their Star should
  consider having Dave make them. You can see above that I'm not alone
  talking about his outstanding workmanship. He is a true Craftsman.

   Buckhunter
  
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Kenneth L. Walters on September 15, 2013, 12:26:04 am
I believe I read somewhere here... Star made  the progressive in 32S&W Long. I assume they are rare.
Steve

I had one.  Just placed an order and it showed up back in 1991 according to the invoice.  Also had a 32 ACP and 475 Wildey tool head bought about the same time.
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: fc60 on September 15, 2013, 12:36:11 pm
Also had a 32 ACP and 475 Wildey tool head bought about the same time.

Greetings Ken,

If you have the original sales invoice, it would be great history to scan them and post them on the Forum.

Cheers,

Dave
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Kenneth L. Walters on December 08, 2013, 12:02:29 am
Alas no scanner.  Sorry.
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Lifetyme on January 16, 2014, 12:31:56 am
I had a Progressive in 32 S&W Long.  There were no modifications other than an installed shell plate and toolhead.  I believe the original Progressives were offered in .32 Long as well as .38 Special.  Mine worked fine.  It was a little slower than what I was accustomed to as the press did not have a Hulme Feeder installed.

Btw, Dave's work is first rate.

Regards.

Bob
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: fc60 on January 16, 2014, 11:51:57 am
Greetings Rob,

You are the first person I have seen to have owned an original Progressive in 32 S&W Long.

My welder friend and I have considered modifying an old Progressive back to 32 Long.

So far, we are still talking since both of us have too many other projects to deal with.

Cheers,

Dave
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: toolnon on January 22, 2014, 10:36:09 pm
i would like to get the phone # of "fc 60" to talk to him about getting a set of star dies made for me. can anyone out there help me out? thanks
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Welsh Rifleman on January 23, 2014, 09:00:49 am
Send Dave a personal message and he can respond to you with more contact information.
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: Green Frog on January 23, 2014, 10:26:08 am
Send Dave a personal message and he can respond to you with more contact information.

... and he is usually quite good about getting back to you.  BTW, if you are reading this, Dave, I hope you will start a new thread and keep us apprised of any progress on the 32 Progressive conversion if you pursue it.  I for one would dearly love to have mine converted, especially if 32 H&R or even better 327 Fed Mag were a possibility.  Thirty eight special is just so...ordinary!!  ;)

Froggie
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: fc60 on January 23, 2014, 01:33:38 pm
Greetings Froggie,

I am currently machining a set of dies for the 327 Federal. They are basically the 32 S&W Long dies with the exception of the expander plug, which needs to be shorter to clear the powder bar.

So, when finished, the dies will load 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R Magnum, and the new 327 Federal Magnum.

My friend and ace welder modified his Star Progressive to allow the use of the #79 Shell Locating Straps. With this change, cases 38 Special and smaller can be used, as long as the shell plate clears.

Cheers,

Dave
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: rbwillnj on January 23, 2014, 02:11:55 pm
Interesting,   I'm in the process of doing much the same.   I'm converting a number of Star Progressives to "Universal Progressives" which will be capable of loading all of the "classic" small primer pistol cases....basically 40 S&W and smaller. 
(and no, it will not load 45 ACP with small primers)

Bruce
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: cc656d on February 04, 2014, 08:08:40 pm
One day if I can figure it I will post pics of the holy grail of Star dies. 32 S&W long NIB with shell plate and 1.7 charge bar
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: johnfreeman on February 04, 2014, 08:23:50 pm
You could send them to me and I'll post 'em!

John
Title: Re: The Holy Grail of Star dies
Post by: cc656d on February 05, 2014, 07:18:06 pm
I will have to take the pics before I can send you the pics !
 :)